Tuesday, July 03, 2007

Apostates of Islam

Normally there are two kinds of testimonies from Muslims: Muslims who become Christians, Muslims who leave Islam for any religion at all. Often they become atheists or agnostics. The site here is written mostly by the second kind. Apostates of Islam, is quite, um, robust and forceful. These former-Muslims do not pull any punches and they use very strong wording to get their point across.

In the West we often associate that with a lack of intellectual integrity. That is, you can't prove your point logically, so you try to prove it by the strength of your emotions, which is no proof at all. But in most Muslim societies if you believe in something strongly then you have to be very loud about it and use strong language (think the letters of Saint Paul).

So here is part of the statement from the cover page of Apostates of Islam:

Why [the] Quran is not from God:

Muhammad produced no miracles and when pressed he claimed that his miracle is the Quran. Yet a cursory look at the Quran reveals that this book is full of errors. Quran is replete with scientific heresies, historic blunders, mathematical mistakes, logical absurdities, grammatical errors and ethical fallacies. It is badly compiled and it contradicts itself. There is nothing intelligent in this book let alone miraculous. Muhammad challenged people to produce a “Surah like it” or find an error therein, yet Muslims would kill anyone who dares to criticize it. In such a climate of hypocrisy and violence truth is the first casualty.

What is our goal?

We are apostates of Islam. We denounce Islam as a false doctrine of hate and terror. However we are not against Muslims who are our own kin and relatives. We do not advocate hate and violence. Muslims are the main victims of Islam. Our goal is to educate them and let them see the truth. We are against Islam and not the Muslims. We strive to bring the Muslims into the fold of humanity. Eradicate Islam so our people can be liberated, so they can prosper and break away from the pillory of Islam. We would like to see Islamic countries dedicate more time to science and less time to Quran and Sharia. We would like to see them prosper and contribute to human civilization. We would like to see the draconian laws of Islam eliminated and people are treated humanely. We strive for freedom of beliefs, for equality of gender and for oneness of mankind.

2 comments:

SocietyVs said...

I have read the site quite a bit in the past few years - and recently checked out Ali Sina's website - Faith Freedom International.

It is strong wording but I get the adamancy of what they are saying. I have read 1/2 of the Quran at this point and I must say there are some real problems for me - even as an outside reader taking in the surahs.

I see problems with Allah always pleading for people to follow him - almost as if they have to be convinced every couple of words. Is this g-d so shallow that he begs of us our attention? Someone writing is making this case persistently for us to follow Allah...that's how it reads.

I read the surah's on beating your wife, women worth 1/3 (men 2/3) of the break-up property, do not be-friend Jews and Christians (and sometimes Christians are cool?), kill those who turn back from the fight for the faith (or from the faith in general), A man may have many wives (un-like a woman - 1 husband), etc...the list could be endless.

Not saying the Quran doesn't talk about peace and mercy quite a bit - it does - but to overlook those other Surahs as 'non-Quranic' (as if they were not there at all) - is also as absurd as wearing a blindfold while reading - which some people do in order to make the religion jive in the West. I am only 1/2 done the Quran and I can see inconsistencies and contradictions on a face value reading of the book...which makes this religion very confused indeed (thus varieties of beliefs in a variety of coutries - usually not more loving than the next society).

I'll read the next 1/2 in July to August - maybe it will say something about how we can pick-n-choose what to believe in there.

Abu Daoud said...

Thank you.

Once I was talking to a Muslim man here and he said, "What do you think about the Quran?"

I asked, Is it created, or increate?

Increate of course, he said.

I don't understand how a word like the Quran that was with God from all eternity could deal with things like the time when Muhammad had a problem with two of his wives, and God sends him a message saying, "You better shape up, or God will give Muhammad better wives than you!"

I mean, I just don't understand how that can be eternally from God.

He had no answer for that point. I think it really caused him to think.