Thursday, August 16, 2007

Paul's False Miracles

Also from Answering Christianity:

"The “miracles” attributed to Paul are myths, based on hearsay, not eyewitnesses (who are they?). But the Hadith (based on eyewitnesses) narrates the Holy Prophet did over 300 miracles. The Hadith are based on isnad (chain of narrators) yet the Gospels have no isnad."

Here is a fine example of the mediocrity of Islamic apologetics (of course there is plenty of Christian apologetics that is mediocre). I mean, really, this is anachronism at the worse. Isnaad refers to the links show in that various hadiith are valid. John said that Jim said that Abdullah said that he heard Muhammad say... That is how the hadiith all begin. And is that not entirely "hearsay"? I mean, Isnaad IS hearsay, and nothing more.

Of course there is no need for isnad with Acts. The claim of Acts is that it is written by Luke, who saw these things personally and knew Paul personally. That seems pretty straight forward and, um, more convincing than, five or six people saying they heard it from someone else. But Islam is never wrong and never open to criticism.

Even reason must submit.

3 comments:

Craig Fletcher said...

How ridiculous. There are so many things wrong with this view I don't even know where to start. We could talk about he historicity of the documents (the manuscript evidence( themselves as well.... does any Muslim want to take up that challenge?

Let's look at 1 Cor. 15, with emphasis on verse 6

3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter, nd then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

In verse 6, Paul is saying "if you want to check into this go right ahead. There are plenty of people still around to this day that saw the resurrected Jesus to this day."

Corinthians is dated by most scholars to have been written to the people of Corinth in the early 50s, very soon after Jesus was seen in His resurrected glory. Why would Paul say this, and how would this letter even have survived (and been quoted by early church fathers as well) if it were not so?

Anonymous said...

Paul lies ! lol

When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a voice. Did those who were with him hear the voice?

And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. Acts 9:7


And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.Acts 22:9

Anonymous said...

PAUL SAID
Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. Galatians 5:2

GOD SAID
My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant. 14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."Genesis 17

PAUL SAID
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. Galatians 3:25
JESUS SAID
I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who ... He is talking to, "you who practise LAWLESSNESS... Matthew 7:23