This blog is written by a Christian living in the Middle East. My desire is to discuss Islam and Christianity in ways that will be helpful for people of the other religion.
Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Britanistan...coming soon
Sad to see Great Britain go this way...But maybe you are British. What do you think? Is this wrong? I mean, incorrect.
If anyone finds this hard to believe I suggest they watch their shows live at http://www.peacetv.tv/
also see huda.tv
2. Stephen Gash
His organization, SIOE, has been run by Pamela Geller, who is described as
'''relentlessly shrill and coarse in her broad-brush denunciations of Islam and makes preposterous claims, such as that President Obama is the "love child" of Malcolm X. She makes no pretense of being learned in Islamic studies,... Geller has mingled comfortably with European racists and fascists, spoken favorably of South African racists, defended Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic and denied the existence of Serbian concentration camps'''
'''''Experts have agreed that honor killings, which dominated headlines after the grisly family murder in Canada, are driven by cultural and tribal reasons and are not sanctioned by Islamic teachings.
"There is nothing in the Quran that justifies honor killings,”
Taj Hargey, director of the Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford in England, told CNN. '''''''' http://www.onislam.net/english/news/global/455627-honor-killing-un-islamic-experts.html
To conclude, neither Muslims nor Islam pose a major threat to Europe
''''Islamist terrorism is still perceived as being the biggest threat worldwide, despite the fact that the EU only faced one Islamist terrorist attack in 2008. This bomb attack took place in the UK…Separatist terrorism remains the terrorism area which affects the EU most. ''''
page 7 of the Europol Report https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/tesat2009_0.pdf
BTW all youtube clips are from KhalifahKlothings channel, a channel which has been well received by the Muslim community. (Cant trust everything on youtube now can we?)
Also, even if Islam was taking over Britain, why is that such a bad thing.
''''Among the most commonly accepted reasons for low crime in Saudi society are harsh punishments, relatice homoneneity, economic prosperity, and most norably the way religions permeates all levels of society and culture''''
Comparative Criminal Justice systems page 87 by
------Harry R. Dammer professor and chair of Criminal Justice/Sociology at the University of Scranton. Member of the American Society of Criminology & the American Correctional Association Chair of the International Section the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences
&&&&
-----Jay S. Albanese, past president of the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciencespast president of the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences
If you ask me, the only reason why Islam has been seriously misrepresented is because
''''Depicting Islam as manifestly medieval, backward, and cruel is not new, as it has been going on in one form or another since the Israelis and Palestinians first locked horns. Recognizing that the propaganda that is being ground out in the mainstream media derives from that conflict, it is easy to understand why Muslims are persistently portrayed in negative terms. '''''
What about chopping off hands for stealing? Or gouging out an eye for making someone blind? Or how about all of the death penalties?
More importantly, what about the fact that Islam is fielding an army to defend it's sovereignty? ALL other religions got out of the army business many centuries ago.
I can see why many find Islam 'backward' and "medieval". And any 'religion' that has its leaders forming and leading combat units IS a THREAT.
I recomend you look again at the quote I gave Harsh punshments have been shown to be more correlated with lower crime rates.
Here is another source
“Most scholars attribute the low Saudi Arabian crime rate mainly to the strong influence of Islam in various spheres of life in Saudi society, particularly to the implementation of Shariah"
Transnational and Comparative criminology, By Prof Sheptycki & Prof Wardak Page 94
My advice to all of us is to not judge things based on our feelings as the bible says
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."
1 Thessalonians 5:21
What army are you talking about? I have no idea what you are saying?
I'm a Middle Eastern Christian, somewhat your reverse. I spent last year in Britain, and the decline in your country's Christianity is evident and lamentable. Nevertheless, in spite of all this, I saw holdouts and I lived with people who believe and love and live together as communities. I am still in awe at the rich Christian heritage of Europe - (even now in its waning!).
I've just come across your blog, but having gleaned its content, I believe you're saying some very insightful things about our region.
I would not recomend you trust the media. They have been caught lying about Islam and Muslims before http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/debunked-zionist-and-islamophobic-libel-rape-epidemic-muslims-norway http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0430/Ahead-of-elections-Egypt-s-state-propaganda-machine-rolls-on
Like the quotes I used above
''''Depicting Islam as manifestly medieval, backward, and cruel is not new, as it has been going on in one form or another since the Israelis and Palestinians first locked horns. Recognizing that the propaganda that is being ground out in the mainstream media derives from that conflict, it is easy to understand why Muslims are persistently portrayed in negative terms. '''''
As for this article, it talks a lot about Mr. Anjam Choudry. I dont know much about him, but here is some things I found
Member of the Racial Equality Council in Swindon for and management committee member of the Al-Habib Islamic Educational and Cultural Centre in Swindon said.
"I travel regularly to Birmingham, Bristol and Reading where my children and grandchildren live. And I have never met anyone who knows or agrees with Choudary," he said, referring to the group leader.
Nagdi, the Leicestershire Federation of Muslim Organizations spokesman, agrees.
''''In many ways, the descriptions of Eurabia parallel classic criticisms of Jews within anti-Semitism – ironic given that the four frameworks identified here are tied up with unqualified support for the state of Israel, the last line of defence against Islamisation. The parallels with anti-Semitism are underlined forcefully by Matt Carr, who points out that Jews in Victorian Britain were thought to harbour a secret ambi- tion to subvert, dominate and possess. Carr also points out that, ‘the fear of cultural and racial extinction has a long pedigree in European history’, traceable back to the ‘racial Darwinism of the nineteenth century, and articulated by writers such as Count Joseph-Arthur de Gobineau, who argued that only races that maintained their racial purity would survive’ – only, today, the Eurabia-ists substitute culture and civilisation for race.'''''
Liz Fekete executive director of the Institute of Race Relations
9 comments:
I dont know whether to laugh or to freak out.
Lets first start with the ''experts'' in the clip.
1. The ''dispatches'' program
The ''radical imams'' have been interviewed and have shown the faults of the documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo7-T63UEJE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3_ZqeR27Mg
If anyone finds this hard to believe I suggest they watch
their shows live at
http://www.peacetv.tv/
also see huda.tv
2. Stephen Gash
His organization, SIOE, has been run by Pamela Geller, who is described as
'''relentlessly shrill and coarse in her broad-brush denunciations of Islam and makes preposterous claims, such as that President Obama is the "love child" of Malcolm X. She makes no pretense of being learned in Islamic studies,... Geller has mingled comfortably with European racists and fascists, spoken favorably of South African racists, defended Serbian war criminal Radovan Karadzic and denied the existence of Serbian concentration camps'''
Forced marriage is forbidden.
Dont take my word for it.
http://www.onislam.net/english/component/jvideodirect/?v=S2LdfQhQivSJq
As for honor killings
'''''Experts have agreed that honor killings, which dominated headlines after the grisly family murder in Canada, are driven by cultural and tribal reasons and are not sanctioned by Islamic teachings.
"There is nothing in the Quran that justifies honor killings,”
Taj Hargey, director of the Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford in England, told
CNN. ''''''''
http://www.onislam.net/english/news/global/455627-honor-killing-un-islamic-experts.html
To conclude, neither Muslims nor Islam pose a major threat to Europe
''''Islamist terrorism is still perceived as being the biggest threat worldwide, despite the fact that the EU only faced one Islamist terrorist attack in 2008. This bomb attack took place in the UK…Separatist terrorism remains the terrorism area which affects the EU most. ''''
page 7 of the Europol Report
https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/publications/tesat2009_0.pdf
BTW all youtube clips are from KhalifahKlothings channel, a channel which has been well received by the Muslim community. (Cant trust everything on youtube now can we?)
Also, even if Islam was taking over Britain, why is that such a bad thing.
''''Among the most commonly accepted reasons for low crime in Saudi society are harsh punishments, relatice homoneneity, economic prosperity, and most norably the way
religions permeates all levels of society and culture''''
Comparative Criminal Justice systems
page 87
by
------Harry R. Dammer
professor and chair of Criminal Justice/Sociology at the University of Scranton.
Member of the American Society of Criminology & the American Correctional Association
Chair of the International Section the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences
&&&&
-----Jay S. Albanese,
past president of the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciencespast president of the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences
If you ask me, the only reason why Islam has been seriously misrepresented is because
''''Depicting Islam as manifestly medieval, backward, and cruel is not new, as it has been going on in one form or another since the Israelis and Palestinians first locked horns. Recognizing that the propaganda that is being ground out in the mainstream media derives from that conflict, it is easy to understand why Muslims are persistently portrayed in negative terms. '''''
Phillip Giraldi
Former CIA agent
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/04/03/the-islamophobia-excuse/
What about chopping off hands for stealing? Or gouging out an eye for making someone blind? Or how about all of the death penalties?
More importantly, what about the fact that Islam is fielding an army to defend it's sovereignty? ALL other religions got out of the army business many centuries ago.
I can see why many find Islam 'backward' and "medieval". And any 'religion' that has its leaders forming and leading combat units IS a THREAT.
Regarding the harsh punishments
I recomend you look again at the quote I gave
Harsh punshments have been shown to be more correlated with lower crime rates.
Here is another source
“Most scholars attribute the low Saudi Arabian crime rate mainly to the strong influence of Islam in various spheres of life in Saudi society, particularly to the implementation of Shariah"
Transnational and Comparative criminology,
By Prof Sheptycki & Prof Wardak
Page 94
My advice to all of us is to not judge things based on our feelings as the bible says
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."
1 Thessalonians 5:21
What army are you talking about?
I have no idea what you are saying?
Abou Daoud,
Too few people realize the rising danger that Europe is under from Islam.
Here's an article I read only today which typifies the strategy of some Muslim groups, organizations and preachers:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9875954/Muslim-preacher-urges-followers-to-claim-Jihad-Seekers-Allowance.html
I'm a Middle Eastern Christian, somewhat your reverse. I spent last year in Britain, and the decline in your country's Christianity is evident and lamentable. Nevertheless, in spite of all this, I saw holdouts and I lived with people who believe and love and live together as communities. I am still in awe at the rich Christian heritage of Europe - (even now in its waning!).
I've just come across your blog, but having gleaned its content, I believe you're saying some very insightful things about our region.
God bless you.
p.s. How can I get in touch with you?
I would not recomend you trust the media.
They have been caught lying about Islam and Muslims before
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/debunked-zionist-and-islamophobic-libel-rape-epidemic-muslims-norway
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0430/Ahead-of-elections-Egypt-s-state-propaganda-machine-rolls-on
Like the quotes I used above
''''Depicting Islam as manifestly medieval, backward, and cruel is not new, as it has been going on in one form or another since the Israelis and Palestinians first locked horns. Recognizing that the propaganda that is being ground out in the mainstream media derives from that conflict, it is easy to understand why Muslims are persistently portrayed in negative terms. '''''
Phillip Giraldi
Former CIA agent
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/04/03/the-islamophobia-excuse/
As for this article, it talks a lot about Mr. Anjam Choudry. I dont know much about him, but here is some things I found
Member of the Racial Equality Council in Swindon for and management committee member of the Al-Habib Islamic Educational and Cultural Centre in Swindon said.
"I travel regularly to Birmingham, Bristol and Reading where my children and grandchildren live. And I have never met anyone who knows or agrees with Choudary," he said, referring to the group leader.
Nagdi, the Leicestershire Federation of Muslim Organizations spokesman, agrees.
"(Their number is ) small and insignificant,"
''''In many ways, the descriptions of Eurabia
parallel classic criticisms of Jews within anti-Semitism – ironic given that the four
frameworks identified here are tied up with unqualified support for the state of
Israel, the last line of defence against Islamisation.
The parallels with anti-Semitism are underlined forcefully by Matt Carr, who
points out that Jews in Victorian Britain were thought to harbour a secret ambi-
tion to subvert, dominate and possess. Carr also points out that, ‘the fear of cultural
and racial extinction has a long pedigree in European history’, traceable back to
the ‘racial Darwinism of the nineteenth century, and articulated by writers such
as Count Joseph-Arthur de Gobineau, who argued that only races that maintained
their racial purity would survive’ – only, today, the Eurabia-ists substitute culture
and civilisation for race.'''''
Liz Fekete
executive director of the Institute of Race Relations
http://rac.sagepub.com/content/53/3/30
page 44
Forgot the reference for Anjem Choudry
http://www.onislam.net/english/news/europe/444248
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