tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post5435369723728688094..comments2024-02-22T04:45:38.928-06:00Comments on Islam and Christianity: Part XI: Muslims' Main Objections to ChristianityAbu Daoudhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18399746942963002389noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-25088723978046095632012-09-29T11:31:47.537-05:002012-09-29T11:31:47.537-05:00The Quran also states:
--------Behold! God said:...The Quran also states:<br /><br /><br />--------Behold! God said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of those who blaspheme; ----- (3:55)<br /><br /><br />Ibn Taymiyyah commented<br /><br />--------Such a verse gives an evidence that Jesus did not die normally, since if that was the true meaning, then Jesus died like all other believers whose souls Allah takes and then causes them to ascend to the heaven. As a result, such an incident would not be a peculiarity to Jesus .-------<br /><br /><br /><br />There is also a hadith which comments on 4:157: <br /><br />----"Jesus will descend, in body and soul. And if he died, Allah would not state: (they killed him not, nor crucified him)"----<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />All the above was taken (with some modifications) from<br /><br />http://www.islamweb.net/womane/nindex.php?page=showfatwa&FatwaId=84206Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03923668328750067048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-91474110971768976842012-09-29T11:25:54.174-05:002012-09-29T11:25:54.174-05:00Thanks for your question.
Lets quote the verse th...Thanks for your question.<br /><br />Lets quote the verse the next verse<br /><br />------Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise----- (4:158)<br /><br /><br />Based on this verse and its preceding one, there consensus has been that Jesus was not crucified.<br /><br />(As mentioned by Shiekh Abdullah Al-Faqih on his website:<br />http://www.islamweb.net/womane/nindex.php?page=showfatwa&FatwaId=84206) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03923668328750067048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-11828614496390369472012-09-28T09:21:10.634-05:002012-09-28T09:21:10.634-05:00Abdul, I'll take your questions one by one. Fi...Abdul, I'll take your questions one by one. First, tell me where the Qur'an says that Jesus was crucified.<br /><br />You will answer, 4:157. But you are wrong. That verse only says that the Jews did not crucify Jesus, which is correct--the Romans did. Other than that you have nothing.<br /><br />The tradition that Jesus was not crucified is not in the Qur'an at all. Sorry buddy.Abu Daoudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399746942963002389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-10721684259606969672012-09-27T16:43:02.302-05:002012-09-27T16:43:02.302-05:00 it is absolutely essential to
maintain th... it is absolutely essential to <br /> maintain this doctrine since <br /> without it God becomes further <br /> and further removed from our <br /> understanding. <br /><br />Actually for us Muslims it is the opposite.<br />For example:<br /><br />The quran argues:<br /><br /><br />----The Messiah , son of Maryam , was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a truthful woman. They both used to eat food. Look how We make the Ayat verses, clear to them, yet look how they are deluded away.----<br /><br /><br />Can you picture what happens to a human that is deprived of food for a few days?<br />Or what happens when a man is nailed to a cross?<br />Do you say this is God?<br /><br />All this summarized in a beautiful poem you can see here<br /><br />http://call-to-monotheism.com/o_christ_worshippers___by_ibnul_qayyim_al_jawzia<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03923668328750067048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-82649944158916472542012-09-27T16:26:33.375-05:002012-09-27T16:26:33.375-05:00There are interpretations of the
Quran which...There are interpretations of the <br /> Quran which support that Jesus was <br /> crucified, but Islam refuses to or <br /> is unable to differentiate between<br /> the meaning of the Quranic text and <br /> the act of interpretation. <br /><br /><br />Are you saying Islam does not know how to interpret the book it based on? Were Prophet Muhhamed (PBUH), his Companions and students all just wrong?<br />I dont think anyone can agree to that.<br /><br /><br />Profesor Robert Funk, even though he states most scholars believe in the Crucifixion of Jesus, he nonetheless says:<br /><br /> The crucifixion of Jesus is not <br /> entirely beyond question. <br /><br /><br />(Honest to Jesus: Jesus for a New Millennium<br />By Robert W. Funk <br />Page 219---- e book can read on book.google.com)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03923668328750067048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-5042396135752745632012-09-27T16:10:30.251-05:002012-09-27T16:10:30.251-05:00Corruption of the Bible: ... This
is, actua...<br /> Corruption of the Bible: ... This <br /> is, actually, not clearly<br /> supported by the Quran, but it is <br /> a common teaching today.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />See this link and decide for yourself what Islam's position is on the issue.<br /> <br />http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/evidence_that_islam_teaches_that_there_was_textual_corruption_of_the_christian_and_jewish_scriptures<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />This isn't just a Muslim position:<br />See a renowned Biblical scholar discuss this topic<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPgO3Jl0dUI<br /><br />See particularly after 4:30 time slice<br /><br /><br /><br />You can verify the authenticity of the <br />video at the scholar's website: <br /><br />http://www.bartdehrman.com/flv_biblemisquotejesus/doesbiblemisquote.htm<br /><br />(see the last 12 minutes for the significant part)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03923668328750067048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-16924268007739927382012-09-27T15:50:21.601-05:002012-09-27T15:50:21.601-05:00The Trinity: which was by then
articulated i...The Trinity: which was by then <br /> articulated in the language of<br /> Greek philosophy. Thus the rejection <br /> of the nuanced doctrine of God's <br /> triunity was firmly cemented as a <br /> form of tri-theism by the time <br /> Islamic scholars gained the skills<br /> whereby they could effectively<br /> dialogue with Christian theologians. <br /><br />Where is the proof for this? <br />Even if this was true, this does not solve the confusion.<br /><br /><br />The Catholic Encyclopedia states that:<br />http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htm#IV <br /><br /> the truth that in the unity of the <br /> Godhead there are Three Persons, <br /> the Father, the Son, and the Holy <br /> Spirit, these Three Persons being <br /> truly distinct one from another.<br /><br /> Thus, in the words of the <br /> Athanasian Creed: "the Father is <br /> God, the Son is God, and the Holy <br /> Spirit is God, and yet there are<br /><br /> not three Gods but one God."<br /><br /><br /><br />BTW, it wasnt only the Muslims who couldn't understand this.<br />The same article of the Encylopedia also says.<br /><br /><br /> The Vatican Council further <br /> defined that the Christian Faith<br /> contains mysteries strictly so <br /> called (can. 4). <br /><br /> All theologians admit that the <br /> doctrine of the Trinity is of the <br /> number of these. Indeed, of all <br /> revealed truths this is the most <br /> impenetrable to reason.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03923668328750067048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-2473505902184124912011-07-06T07:43:03.742-05:002011-07-06T07:43:03.742-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Amos L. Shahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05678520930805091025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-77444697585607711242011-07-06T07:42:14.497-05:002011-07-06T07:42:14.497-05:00Rain is here and Almighty God Isa-Al-Masih is Good...Rain is here and Almighty God Isa-Al-Masih is Good!<br /><br />Amos ShahAmos L. Shahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05678520930805091025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-41702650584549980152011-06-04T14:12:29.234-05:002011-06-04T14:12:29.234-05:00LinZ: I think you are very correct in what you hav...LinZ: I think you are very correct in what you have said. The fact is that while these debates about election and the nature of baptism and church membership are not unimportant, they are within the family, within the Church. <br /><br />The Church needs to be outward focused...Thanks for dropping by the blog.Abu Daoudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399746942963002389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-32167222870195705422011-06-04T09:30:39.574-05:002011-06-04T09:30:39.574-05:00Hilarius: So sorry for the long delay in posting a...Hilarius: So sorry for the long delay in posting a response. These old articles still get read from time to time, I'm happy to say :-)<br /><br />You are asking a complex question really. The reason is that we know very little about Christianity in the Arabian Penn. during the time of the birth of Islam. So could he have been influenced by Nestorians? The Christians he met would probably have been Nestorians, indeed. Maybe their emphasis on the humanity of Christ, and Mary as the mother of Christ, but not theotokos, did indeed influence Muhammad. Maybe he was, so to speak, throwing a bone to the local Christians so they would get on board with his new imperial program?<br /><br />But that is all we can do, guess. It seems clear from reading the Qur'an that Muhammad knew almost nothing about Christianity. Also, there were no permanent Christian communities in either Mecca or Medina.<br /><br />Hope that answers your question. --ADAbu Daoudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18399746942963002389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-56655421580804656162007-10-05T07:35:00.000-05:002007-10-05T07:35:00.000-05:00Abu Daoud, these are the same objections (along wi...Abu Daoud, these are the same objections (along with other variances)presented by the Western Muslims and the so-called "ex-Christian" converts to Islam who are propagating error on YouTube. Sadly, the Western Church has failed to clarify to those in Her own sphere the teachings of the virgin birth, the essence of GOD's triune nature, the Deity of Christ, the fulfillment of the Law and prophecies, et al. Western Christians are too busy trying to pit grace and free-will against each other, and promote the superiority of denominational preferences... or worse they are competing with secular industries and happily assimilating into the surrounding culture.LinZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18331441349513156153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36628692.post-71702558054854100442007-06-29T15:50:00.000-05:002007-06-29T15:50:00.000-05:00Abu Daoud:To what extent do you believe that old N...Abu Daoud:<BR/><BR/>To what extent do you believe that old Nestorian views on Christ may have influenced the perception of Christianity on Islam in the earliest days? Here, I think of the fact that there was a flourishing Nestorian Christian diocese and monastery in Bahrain, one of the earliest adopters of Islam outside of the peninsula,and one could imagine that this was the predominate initial contact with Christian thought at least until the conquests in Greater Syria and Egypt.Hilariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05702731902033210478noreply@blogger.com